Walther P38 Serial Numbers Lookup
- Walther P38 Post War Serial Number Lookup
- Post War Walther P38 Serial Numbers Lookup
- Post War Walther P38 Serial Numbers
Walther: The zero-serie. The 0-Series was the first official P38 variation issued to the German army.This variation is produced between june 1939 and may 1940. Serial numbers of this variation always start with a 0, hence the name 0-Series. P38 pistol production: 1939-1953©. Walther commercial mod hp h prefix 1,070 h1051 to h2071 7+ rectangular firing pin and crown/n proofs. Mod p38 1,800 24093 to 25812 7 all late military blue finish ac 45 zero series 1,200 025834 to 027010 7+ zero prefix snfinish is typical rough ac45 type. Serial number on the frame is 242892A. The serial number on the slide is the same without the A suffix. Is the letter at the end of the serial number significant This seems to be a really well made pistol and I am looking forward to shooting it this Saturday. What are your opinions of the PPK, since I am a Walther neophite. WWII coded Walther and Mauser P-38 pistols will also have a production year stamped on the slide. This is two digits. A Walther would be marked 'ac 43' as example. WWII P-38's were made in 10,000 gun 'blocks'. Each block was given a block letter code in addition to the serial number. I bought a German Army surplus Walther P1 on Friday. I have since tried to find a website that has some good info in regard to serial numbers. P38 surplus, P1 surplus, P38 commercial, and P4 surplus guns. Consecutive serial number SVW-45s. Consecutive serial number SVW-46s. Post-war P38 in 7.65mm Parabellum. East German P.38s. Reworked wartime ac40, ac44, and an East German manufactured gun. Steel frame P38 from Earl's Repair Service. Ac45 matching 'c' block.
1943 P38 Heerespistole (Army Pistol)(Mfg in 1943 by Mauser Oberndorf [byf])
Walther P38 Post War Serial Number Lookup
Hoffschmidt's 'Know Your Walther PP/PPK' is very useful and cheap. Walther started up their own re-manufacturing of the PP line in 1985/1986. They also started a new serial number sequence, For the PP the serial numbers started at 700,001 and the the PPK at 800,001. Trying to find Production Year THIS GUN WAS MADE.
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Rifling & Twist: ........ 6 groove, right hand twist.
Barrel Length: ........ 4.9 in. (125 mm)
Overall Length: ....... 8.5 in. (216 mm)
Weight: ............. 1.77 ilbs. (800 grams)
Magazine Capacity: .... 8 rounds
Qty Mfg: ............ 380,000 manufactured by Mauser between 1942 and 1946
Source: .. 'Guns Review' Volume 26 No. 8 August 1986 by J. Schonebeck
1943 P38 Heerespistole (Army Pistol)
(21 picture virtual tour)
Observations: (excerpted from 'Guns Review', Volume 26, No. 8, August 1986 by J. Schonebeck)
Note: Pics of pistol provided courtesy of Milsurps.com member 'Claven2'.
In 1935 the German 'Heereswaffenamt' or 'HWaA' began serious research for a replacement of the old Luger as they felt that the cost, as well as the sensitivity of the P.08 to its ammunition, was too high.
Several well-known German manufacturers took part in the competition which included Sauer & Sohn, the Berlin-Suhler Waffenfabrik and Mauser with its model HSv. All pistols were rejected by the Heereswaffenamt in favour of the Walther submission. After some changes regarding its name, [model MP (=militaerpistole), AP (=armeepistole), and HP (=heerespistole)], and several other mechanical changes, the gun was finally given its approval by the military. Its official designation became 'Pistole 38' or P.38 signifying the year of official introduction into the army.
Being designed for mass production, the cost for the necessary amounts of raw material -steel, etc.- was also much less than for the Luger (P.08: 11.50 Reichmark in 1939, P.38: 5.60 Reichmark in 1940). After delivering only 1470 guns in 1939 for test purposes, Walther started regular production programme in 1940 but due to manufacturing problems, only 25,000 guns were produced that year. These were made with the Walther banner and under the codes '480', 'ac' and 'ac40'. Walther kept this code with the last two digits of the year of manufacture until the end of the war in 1945.
Since it was obvious that the Walther firm would not be able to supply the German military with the enormous amount of handguns that was needed, Mauser was asked in 1942 to tool up for the production of P.38s, followed in 1943 by the Spreewerke firm in Berlin (code cyq) and several occupied foreign companies, such as 'FN' in Belgium, the 'Boehmische Waffenfabrik' (code fnh) and the 'Erstre Nordboehmische Metallwarenfabrik' (code jvd) in Czechoslovakia which manufactured slides and frames (FN) , barrels and locking blocks (fnh) and magazines (jvd).
Mauser stopped production of the Luger pistol at the end of 1942. The last lot of P.08s, though proofed by the Heereswaffenampt, were not even accepted by the military and instead sold to Portugal (P.08, code byf42 Ser. No. 685n-5253n). P.38 production at the Mauser factory began in November 1942. All Mauser made P.38s either went to the military or the police forces. There were no commercial sales.
The designation of the P.38 pistols followed the same system as before on the Luger pistols. All guns were stamped on the left hand side of the slide with the Mauser code, which was 'byf' between 1941 and the end of 1944, and 'SVW' in 1945 and 1946. Earlier Mauser codes that can be found on other guns were '237', 'S/42' and '42'. These kinds of codes were given to manufacturers of arms and military equipment in order to conceal production figures and sources.
Due to difficulties in the starting of production and its late beginning in November, 1942, Mauser made only few byf42 coded P.38s. In 1943 and 1944 the production was at its highest level and an enormous amount of guns was turned out. This changed completely towards the end of the war. Due to the lack of raw material and workers, only a small amount of P.38s coded SVW45 were produced for the German military. Though the demand for handguns rose constantly throughout the war, Mauser managed to keep the workmanship on its pistols at a fairly high level. Nevertheless, the finish became somewhat rougher during the last years. Still all guns functioned well and with great reliability.
The production of guns under German authority stopped finally on the 20th of April, 1945 when the Mauser factory was overrun by French troops. Shortly thereafter, manufacture was resumed for the French military and police forces. Between May 1945 and May 1946, when production phased out, Mauser produced approximately 100,000 98k carbines, 20,000 HSc pistols, 3,000 Lugers, some WTPII pistols and approximately 30,000 to 40,000 P.38s. The French kept the German SVW code and continued the serial numbering system. After the end of the French production, all factory buildings and records were ordered to be destroyed by the French occupation forces, thereby making it difficult for today's collector to trace production figures and other records.
During the time of production, between 1942 and 1946, only minor changes were made to speed up production. In 1944 the hold-open latch was simplified from an expensive machined part to a less expensive and easier to produce stamping of sheet metal. In the same year, Mauser also started experimenting with a new parkerized finish, which was easier and faster to use and less expensive. It was utilised from late 1944 until the end of the war in April, 1945. Pistols with this finish have a dull grey-green appearance. It can only be found on late byf44 and SVW45 coded P.38s.
Earlier in 1943, the section under the trigger pin hole of the frame was no longer cut straight. A slight projection was left at this point in order to beef up this area. Before, the trigger pin hole had been rather close to the underside of the trigger guard. Mauser P.38s made before 1944 usually have a dull blue to black coloured military-type blueing.
Late in 1944 in the second b-range serial number series, the firm started manufacturing the pistols with parkerized frames and slides, but blued barrels. The production of these 'dual tone' guns continued into early 1945 (ca second half of the e-block, code SVW45). The final German P.38s usually had an overall parkerized finish, including barrel. French made P.38s coded SVW45 or 46 are either parkerized with a very dark green-grey and 'rough' looking finish that differs from the German finish or blued.
Grip Panels on Mauser P.38s during the war were usually either made of red-brown bakelite or black plastic. Sometimes different shades of brown plastic may be found. While the red-brown bakelite grip panels were mostly used during 1942-43 and the beginning of 1944, the black plastic panels were mostly utilised in the latter half of 1944 and in 1945. However both styles may be found on earlier, as well as, latter guns. French guns had either black plastic grip panels that were left over from German stocks or stamped metal grip panels that were parkerized or blued, depending on the finish of the rest of the gun.
Proof and Acceptance Marks
Almost all of the Mauser manufactured P.38s went to the German military forces: 'Heer' (Army), 'Luftwaffe' (Airforce) and 'Kriegsmarine' (Navy). All these guns were issued with a pattern of proofmarks and acceptance stamps. Every pistol was test fired and then stamped with a military test proofmark on each slide, (right hand side), locking block and barrel. In addition, acceptance stamps were placed on the slide (two- left and right from the military proofmark), the frame (right, next to serial number), the locking block, the barrel and the magazine. The purpose of these acceptance stamps was to prove that each individual gun and its parts met the quality standards set by the 'Heerswaffenamt'. In order to carry out this job, inspectors were assigned to each individual firm if they were larger companies or to a specific area if there were several smaller manufacturers. These inspectors and their office (called the 'Waffenamt' or 'WaA' which means 'weapons office') were responsible to the 'Heerswaffenamt' rather than the producer to which they were assigned and can be identified by the individual acceptance stamp. During production of the P.38, the inspectors at Mauser used the 'eagle-over 135' stamp until the beginning of 1944 and the 'eagle-over-WaA 135' after that until the end of the war.
Almost all P.38s manufactured under German authority were made for the military. Aside from those, there was a small number ordered by the 'Reichsinnenministerium' or ministry of interior, for the police forces, all of which were coded byf43, 44 or SVW45. Instead of the military proofmark, these guns were stamped with German Nitro-commercial-proof. It can be found on the left hand side of the slide (next to guns serial number), on the barrel, and on the locking block. Aside from the commercial proofs, police P.38s carry a distinctive police acceptance stamp on the right hand side of the slide which consists of an eagle with either an L or F. It served the same purpose as the military stamp. The eagle-L stamp is found on the earlier guns with the code byf43 or byf44 while the eagle-F can be seen on a few late production byf44s and SVW45s. Since the parts for these guns were taken from military stocks most, if not all, also carry some military acceptance stamps on the usual spots.
This article would not be complete without mentioning a rather peculiar lot of several hundred to several thousand dual tone finished P.38s the Mauser factory turned out in late 1944. The serial numbers of these guns all fall within the c-range of the second alphabet run. Instead of the usual byf44 code, these pistols carry the stacked codes 'ac 43' or 'ac 44' on the left hand side of the slide. The slides on all these P.38s were manufactured by the Belgium firm 'Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre' (FN) and it was there that they had the Walther code engraved, apparently by hand, due to the irregularities in the writing of the codes. It can therefore be assumed that they were destined for the Walther firm and re-routed to Mauser. FN never manufactured any complete P.38s. Instead they made some slides and frames. Mauser assembled most FN slides, Walther most of the FN frames, while Spreewerke Berlin, according to Warren H. Buxton, assembled both.
Judging by the dual tone finish on the guns examined by the author, and their serial number range, these P.38s were finished, serialised, proofed, and assembled by Mauser in very late 1944. They carry the 'eagle-over-WaA 135' Mauser military acceptance stamp. Some police issued models have also been reported. All in all, these guns are quite rare, especially if they carry a police acceptance stamp.
P.38s made under French supervision usually did not carry any German proofmarks or acceptance stamps, unless they had French used parts that had already been proofed or accepted by the Germans. Quite a few guns like these, from the early French production can be found in the g-or early h-serial number range. Typical for the French P.38s is the 'star proof' which served as a pressure test proofmark and not as an acceptance stamp. It can be found on the same places as the German proofmark.
Collector's Comments and Feedback:
1. Premiums may typically be paid for pistols with original holsters and both identically coded magazines. Matching serial numbers are the norm on these pistols and should be insisted upon in a collectible example. Bore on wartime P38's vary from ratty and poor to nearly new, though most show some wear or minor pitting due to wartime ammunition quality (or lack thereof).
Recently a great number of pistols have been released from old russian stores located in the Ukraine. These are pistols acquired by the Russians during and immediately following the war. Virtually all are refurbished, usually by a process referred to as 'hot dip' blueing. Typically, even parts normally found in the white on original pistols such as the locking block will be blued on these russian capture examples, and also an 'X' refurbishment mark will be found on these pistols. Sometimes they have been force-matched with either stamps and/or electro-pencil. Import marks are also common on these guns. Obviously, these RC P38's are not as desirable as original examples and should be valued accordingly...... (Feedback by 'Claven2')
| Walther P38 | |
|---|---|
| Type | Semi-automatic pistol |
| Place of origin | Germany |
| Service history | |
| In service | 1938–present |
| Used by | See Users |
| Wars | World War II[1] Indochina War[2] Algerian War[2] Portuguese Colonial War Vietnam War (Limited)[3] War in Afghanistan Iraqi Civil War (2014-2017) (P1) |
| Production history | |
| Designed | 1938 |
| Manufacturer | Carl Walther Waffenfabrik, Mauser Werke, Spreewerk |
| Unit cost | 32 RM (1943) 110 EUR current equivalent |
| Produced | Walther P38 1939-1945 Pistole P1 1957-2000 |
| No. built | ~1,000,000 [1] |
| Variants | HP, P1, P38K, P38 SD, P4 |
| Specifications | |
| Length | 216 mm (8.5 in) |
| Barrel length | 125 mm (4.9 in) |
| Cartridge | 9×19mm Parabellum |
| Caliber | 0.355 inches (9.0 mm)[4] |
| Action | Short recoil, locked breech |
| Muzzle velocity | 1,050 ft/s (320 m/s)[5] |
| Effective firing range | Sights set for 50 m (55 yd) |
| Maximum firing range | 55 yards (50 m)[6] |
| Feed system | 8-round magazine |
| Sights | Rear notch and front blade post |
The Walther P38 (originally written Walther P.38) is a 9 mmsemi-automatic pistol that was developed by Carl Walther GmbH as the service pistol of the Wehrmacht at the beginning of World War II. It was intended to replace the costly Luger P08, the production of which was scheduled to end in 1942.
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Development[edit]
The first designs submitted to the German Army featured a locked breech and a hidden hammer, but the Heer (German Army) requested that it be redesigned with an external hammer.
The P38 concept was accepted by the German military in 1938 but production of actual prototype ('Test') pistols did not begin until late 1939. Walther began manufacture at their plant in Zella-Mehlis and produced three series of 'Test' pistols, designated by a '0' prefix to the serial number. Autodesk crack 2015. The third series pistols satisfactorily solved the previous problems for the Heer and mass production began in mid-1940, using Walther's military production identification code '480'. After a few thousand pistols the Heer changed all codes from numbers to letters and Walther was given the 'ac' code.[citation needed]
Several experimental versions were later created in .45 ACP, and .38 Super, but these were never mass-produced. In addition to the 9×19mm Parabellum version, some 7.65×21mm Parabellum and some .22 Long Rifle versions were also manufactured and sold.
Design details[edit]

From an engineering perspective the P38 was a semi-automatic pistol design that introduced technical features that are found in other semi-automatic pistols like the Beretta 92 and its M9 sub-variant adopted by the United States military.
The P38 was the first locked-breech pistol to use a double-action/single-action (DA/SA) trigger (the earlier double-action PPK was an unlocked blowback design, but the more powerful 9×19mm Parabellum round used in the P38 mandated a locked breech design). The shooter could chamber a round, use the safety-decocking lever to safely lower the hammer without firing the round, and carry the weapon loaded. This lever can stay down, keeping the pistol 'on safe' or be immediately returned to the straight position, keeping the weapon safely 'ready' with a double-action trigger pull for the first shot. Pulling the trigger cocks the hammer before firing the first shot with double-action operation. The firing mechanism extracts and ejects the first spent round, cocks the hammer, and chambers a fresh round for single-action operation with each subsequent shot – all features found in many modern day handguns. Besides a DA/SA trigger design similar to that of the earlier Walther PPKs the P38 features a visible and tactile loaded chamber indicator in the form of a metal rod that protrudes out of the top rear end of the slide when a round is present in the chamber.[7]
The moving-barrel design mechanism operates by use of a wedge-shaped falling locking block underneath the breech. When the pistol is fired both the barrel and slide recoil for a short distance together, where the locking block drives down, disengaging the slide and arresting further rearward movement of the barrel. The slide however continues its rearward movement on the frame, ejecting the spent case and cocking the hammer before reaching the end of travel. Two return springs located on either side of the frame and below the slide, having been compressed by the slide's rearward movement, drive the slide forward, stripping a new round from the magazine, driving it into the breech and, in the process, re-engaging the barrel; ending its return travel with a fresh round chambered, hammer cocked and ready to repeat the process. The falling locking block design provides good accuracy due to the in-line travel of the barrel and slide.
Initial production P38 pistols were fitted with walnut grips, but these were later supplanted by Bakelite grips.[8]Post war P1 grips were made of sheet metal.
Variants[edit]
The Walther P38 was in production from 1939 to 1945.[9] After the war from 1945-1946, several thousands of pistols were assembled for the French armed forces[2](frequently dubbed 'grey ghosts' because of parkerized finish and grey sheet metal grips). Only after 1957 was the P38 again produced for the German military. Slowly over time, West Germany desired to rebuild its military so that it could shoulder some of the burden for its own defense. Walther retooled for new P38 production since no military firearms production had occurred in West Germany since the end of the war, knowing that the military would again seek Walther firearms. When the Bundeswehr announced it wanted the P38 for its official service pistol, Walther readily resumed P38 production within just two years, using wartime pistols as models and new engineering drawings and machine tools. The first of the new P38s were delivered to the West German military in June 1957, some 17 years and two months after the pistol had initially seen action in World War II, and from 1957 to 1963 the P38 was again the standard sidearm.
P1[edit]
In late 1963 the postwar military model P1 was adopted for use by the German military, identifiable by the P1 stamping on the slide. The postwar pistols, whether marked as P38 or P1, have an aluminum frame rather than the steel frame of the original design. Starting in June 1975, the aluminum frame was reinforced with a hex bolt above the trigger guard.
During the 1990s the German military started replacing the P1 with the P8 pistol and finally phased out the P1 in 2004.
P4[edit]
An improved version of the P38, the Walther P4, was developed in the late 1970s and was adopted by the police forces of South Africa, Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg.
Users[edit]
- Afghanistan: Afghan National Police received 10,000 P1s after the fall of the Talibans[10]
- Algeria[11]
- Argentina (trial purposes)[12]
- Austria[13]
- Canada: Used by the prisoner transport services of the Correctional Service Canada until the late 1980's. P1 Variant
- Chad: P1 variant.[13]
- Chile: Chilean Army.[14]
- Independent State of Croatia[15]
- East Germany: Used primarily by police and paramilitary.[16]
- Finland: Finnish UN peacekeeping forces, P1 variant.[17]
- France: Replaced by the mid-1950s.[1]
- Germany: P1 variant.[13]
- Hungary[15]
- Italy[15]
- Iraq: Iraqi Kurdistan received 8,000 P1 pistols in 2014[18]
- Japan[15]
- Kazakhstan - at least up to 2007 were used as service pistol in private security companies[19]
- Lebanon[13]
- North Macedonia: P1 variant.[13]
- Mozambique[13]
- Nazi Germany[14]
- North Korea[citation needed]
- North Vietnam[3]
- Norway: Norwegian Armed Forces.[20] Replaced by the P80 in 1985[21]
- Pakistan:Used by Pakistan Navy and Pakistan Army Medical Corps. In small numbers purchased from West Germany
- Portugal: Portuguese Army.[14]
- South Africa: Standard sidearm of SA Police.[22]
- Sweden: HP variant.[23]
- West Germany[14]
- Yugoslav Partisans[24]
Trivia[edit]
The original design for the Transformers character Megatron allowed him to assume the appearance of the P38. The United States deemed it illegal due to the barrel not having an orange tip, making it hard to differentiate from the actual firearm. Australia also outlaws the toy from import for similar reasons.
References[edit]
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- ^ ab'WWII German weapons during the Vietnam War'. 10 July 2015.
- ^Weapons of World War II by Alexander Ludeke
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- ^Military Small Arms of the 20th Century, Ian Hogg, John Weeks
- ^'P38 - 9mm semi-automatic pistol - history & development of the weapon'. Hellcat Patriots' Rifle Club. Retrieved 2009-04-16.
- ^'Walther Military P.38 Production Dates'(PDF).
- ^Bhatia, Michael Vinai; Sedra, Mark (May 2008). Small Arms Survey (ed.). Afghanistan, Arms and Conflict: Armed Groups, Disarmament and Security in a Post-War Society. Routledge. p. 170. ISBN978-0-415-45308-0.
- ^'World Infantry Weapons: Algeria'. 2015. Archived from the original on 24 November 2016.
- ^Julio S. Guzmán, Las Armas Modernas de Infantería, Abril de 1953
- ^ abcdefJones, Richard D. Jane's Infantry Weapons 2009/2010. Jane's Information Group; 35 edition (January 27, 2009). ISBN978-0-7106-2869-5.
- ^ abcdDiez, Octavio (2000). Armament and Technology. Lema Publications, S.L. ISBN84-8463-013-7.
- ^ abcdScarlata, Paul (10 March 2013). 'Evolution of the Modern Military Pistol'. Shotgun News.
- ^http://p-38.info/eg/index.htm
- ^Hyytinen, Timo (2002). Arma Fennica II Military Weapons. Gummerus Oy, Inc. ISBN951-99887-0-X.
- ^Small Arms Survey (2015). 'Trade Update: After the 'Arab Spring''(PDF). Small Arms Survey 2015: weapons and the world(PDF). Cambridge University Press. p. 110.
- ^Постановление Правительства Республики Казахстан № 1305 от 28 декабря 2006 года 'Об утверждении Государственного кадастра гражданского и служебного оружия и патронов к нему на 2007 год'
- ^Marchington, James (2004). The Encyclopedia of Handheld Weapons. Lewis International, Inc. ISBN1-930983-14-X.
- ^'P80 - Pistol'. Retrieved May 28, 2014.
- ^Helmoed-Romer, Heitman (1991). Modern African Wars (3): South-West Africa. Osprey Publishing. ISBN185532122X.
- ^Reichert, Orv. 'P.38 variations'. Pistole38.nl. Retrieved November 23, 2012.
- ^Scarlata, Paul (1 October 2017). 'Yugoslav Part II: World War II small arms: an assortment of small arms from friends and foe alike'. Firearms News.
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